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It's Eivissa, not Ibiza

Well, I know that everywhere in the world the island is known as Ibiza, but the oficial name is EIVISSA, and you should respect it. In addition, the people in the island speak Catalan, and the name for the island in Catalan is EIVISSA. I don't think that English should adopt the Spanish name for the island meanwhile the name for the island is EIVISSA.

For example, the name in Catalan for Zaragoza (in Aragon) is Saragossa. But why do you respect the native toponym (Zaragoza) and you don't respect another native toponym (Eivissa)?

Thank you. --Polete 98 talk 20:09, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'm honestly not trying to put Catalan down and promote the Spanish version of the name. It's just that the convention we use is to use the name most commonly used in English, which in this case is also the Spanish name. There may well be other articles where the common English name is the same as the Catalan one and the Spanish version is only mentioned in passing.
Please feel free to expand on the Catalan history of the island within the article, but I'm afraid that the Spanish name should be used to stop confusion in readers whose native language is English. --GraemeL (talk) 20:14, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Catalan?

In Ibiza they speak Mallorquin and not Catalan, There are no Catalan-speaking countries. Catalonia were a few counties in the past who joined the Aragon crown for economic reasons. But there was a kingdom on the islands, just like in Valencia. Enough of Catalan propaganda. And by the way I am going to ask for the protection of the article because from what I see the IP that is dedicated to spreading propaganda comes from Catalonia itself. Enough already. I'm from Ibiza and I'm neither Catalan nor do I want to be. Majorcan is spoken here, but everyone speaks Spanish. Catalonia never had a kingdom or flag, the flag it uses is that of the crown of Aragon without royal distinctions. I do not know what the Catalan independentistas want but they already have the president of their autonomous community being a fugitive from justice.

Pronunciation in British English (BBC English)

The official name of the island is in Catalan Eivissa (pronounced [əjˈvisə]). Its name in Spanish is Ibiza (pronounced [iˈβiθa]). In British English, the name is usually pronounced in an approximation of the Spanish /aɪˈbiːθə/,[4] whereas in American English the pronunciation is closer to Latin American Spanish (/ɪˈbiːzə/,[5] /iːˈbiːsə/[6]).[7][8]

according to Jones' ENGLISH PRONOUNCING DICTIONARY (15TH ED.), the name is pronounced /ɪˈbiːθə/ in BBC English. People with no knowledge at all of Spanish may of course use a diphthong/glide /aɪ/, but that doesn't mean it's a standard pronunc. per se imho.

Wathiik (talk) 12:08, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please repeat the “pronunciation”. Jacquelene L. Corbett (talk) 23:41, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Can you put this is plain English as I'm trying to solve an argument. I was told that the 'th' pronunciation of 'z' is only in Castillian Spain, not the other parts (ie Catalan, of which Ibiza derives its language). So if Catalans pronounce z as a 'z' or 's' sound, that means Ibiza is 'Ibeesa' and not 'Ibeetha'?101.164.235.226 (talk) 07:09, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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